مجمع الزوائد ومنبع الفوائد
Majma' al-Zawa'id
كتاب القدر
Book of Divine Decree
بَابُ النَّهْيِ عَنِ الْكَلَامِ فِي الْقَدَرِ .

The prohibition of disputing about divine decree

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عَنْ ثَوْبَانَ قَالَ : اجْتَمَعَ أَرْبَعُونَ مِنَ الصَّحَابَةِ يَنْظُرُونَ فِي الْقَدَرِ وَالْجَبْرِ ، فِيهِمْ أَبُو بَكْرٍ وَعُمَرَ - رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمَا - فَنَزَلَ الرُّوحُ الْأَمِينُ جِبْرِيلُ - صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ - فَقَالَ : يَا مُحَمَّدُ ، اخْرُجْ عَلَى أُمَّتِكَ فَقَدْ أَحْدَثُوا ، فَخَرَجَ عَلَيْهِمْ فِي سَاعَةٍ لَمْ يَكُنْ يَخْرُجُ عَلَيْهِمْ فِي مِثْلِهَا ، فَأَنْكَرُوا ذَلِكَ ، وَخَرَجَ عَلَيْهِمْ مُتَلَمِّعًا لَوْنُهُ ، مُتَوَرِّدَةً وَجْنَتَاهُ ، كَأَنَّمَا تَفْقَأُ بِحَبِّ الرُّمَّانِ الْحَامِضِ ، فَنَهَضُوا إِلَى رَسُولِ اللَّهِ - صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ - حَاسِرِينَ أَدْرِعَتَهُمْ ، تَرْعَدُ أَكُفُّهُمْ وَأَذْرُعُهُمْ ، فَقَالُوا : تُبْنَا إِلَى اللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ ، فَقَالَ : " أَوْلَى لَكُمْ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ لَتُوجِبُونَ ، أَتَانِي الرُّوحُ الْأَمِينُ فَقَالَ : اخْرُجْ عَلَى أُمَّتِكَ يَا مُحَمَّدُ فَقَدْ أَحْدَثَتْ " .
رَوَاهُ الطَّبَرَانِيُّ ، وَفِيهِ يَزِيدُ بْنُ رَبِيعَةَ الرَّحْبِيُّ وَهُوَ مَتْرُوكٌ ، وَقَالَ ابْنُ عَدِيٍّ : أَرْجُو أَنَّهُ لَا بَأْسَ بِهِ .
Sayyiduna Thawban (may Allah be pleased with him) narrates: Forty Companions had gathered and were deliberating about the decree and compulsion (jabr); among them were Sayyiduna Abu Bakr (may Allah be pleased with him) and Sayyiduna Umar (may Allah be pleased with him). The Trustworthy Spirit, Sayyiduna Jibril (peace be upon him), descended and said: O Sayyiduna Muhammad! Go out to your Ummah, for they have become involved in something new. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) came to them at a time at which he did not normally come to those people, and the people were surprised at this. When the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) came, his colour had changed and his cheeks had reddened, and it seemed as if pomegranate seeds had been burst upon him (that is, his face had turned red). The people quickly got up and came to the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), their palms and forearms trembling. They said: We repent to Allah and His Messenger. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: Woe to you! You were about to make it (punishment) binding upon yourselves. The Trustworthy Spirit came to me and said: O Sayyiduna Muhammad! Go out to your Ummah, for they have introduced something new.
Al-Tabarani recorded it; its chain contains Yazid bin Rabi'ah al-Rahbi, who is matruk (abandoned), and Ibn Adi said: I hope there is no harm in him.
Hadith Reference مجمع الزوائد ومنبع الفوائد / كتاب القدر / 11848
Hadith Grading محدثین: ضعیف جداً
Hadith Takhrij «اخرجه الطبراني فى المعجم الكبير (1423) ، أخرجه المعجم الكبير للطبراني برقم: 1423»
وَعَنْ أَبِي الدَّرْدَاءِ ، وَوَاثِلَةَ بْنِ الْأَسْقَعِ ، وَأَبِي أُمَامَةَ ، وَأَنَسِ بْنِ مَالِكٍ قَالُوا : كُنَّا فِي مَجْلِسِ أُنَاسٍ مِنَ الْيَهُودِ ، وَنَحْنُ نَتَذَاكَرُ الْقَدَرَ ، فَخَرَجَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ - صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ - مُغْضَبًا ، فَعَبَسَ وَانْتَهَرَ وَقَطَّبَ ، ثُمَّ قَالَ : " مَهْ ، اتَّقُوا اللَّهَ يَا أُمَّةَ مُحَمَّدٍ ، وَادِيَانِ عَمِيقَانِ فَغْرَانِ [ مُظْلِمَانِ ] ، لَا تُهَيِّجُوا عَلَيْكُمْ وَهَجَ النَّارِ " ، ثُمَّ أَمَرَ الْيَهُودَ أَنْ يَقُومُوا ، ثُمَّ قَامَ وَبَسَطَ يَمِينَهُ وَبَسَطَ إِصْبَعَهُ الشِّمَالَ ، ثُمَّ قَالَ : " بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَنِ الرَّحِيمِ هَذَا كِتَابٌ مِنَ الرَّحْمَنِ الرَّحِيمِ بِأَسْمَاءِ أَهْلِ الْجَنَّةِ ، وَأَسْمَاءِ آبَائِهِمْ ، وَأُمَّهَاتِهِمْ ، وَعَشَائِرِهِمْ ، فَرَغَ رَبُّكُمْ ، فَرَغَ رَبُّكُمْ ، فَرَغَ رَبُّكُمْ " ، ثُمَّ بَسَطَ شِمَالَهُ ، ثُمَّ أَشَارَ إِلَيْهَا ، ثُمَّ قَالَ : " بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَنِ الرَّحِيمِ هَذَا كِتَابٌ مِنْ الرَّحْمَنِ الرَّحِيمِ ، بِأَسْمَاءِ أَهْلِ النَّارِ ، وَأَسْمَاءِ آبَائِهِمْ ، وَأُمَّهَاتِهِمْ ، وَعَشَائِرِهِمْ ، فَرَغَ رَبُّكُمْ ، فَرَغَ رَبُّكُمْ ، فَرَغَ رَبُّكُمْ ، أَعْذَرْتُ ؟ أَنْذَرْتُ ؟ اللَّهُمَّ إِنِّي قَدْ بَلَّغْتُ " .
رَوَاهُ الطَّبَرَانِيُّ ، وَفِيهِ عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ يَزِيدَ بْنِ آدَمَ ، قَالَ أَحْمَدُ : أَحَادِيثُهُ مَوْضُوعَةٌ .
Sayyiduna Abu al-Darda, Sayyiduna Wathilah bin al-Asqa', Sayyiduna Abu Umamah and Sayyiduna Anas bin Malik (may Allah be pleased with them all) narrate: We were in a gathering with some people from among the Jews, and we were discussing the decree. Meanwhile, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) came out in a state of anger; he had creased his forehead and displeasure was showing on his face. Then he said: "Stop! O Ummah of Muhammad! Fear Allah! There are two deep, wide-mouthed, dark valleys; do not kindle the intensity of the Fire against yourselves." Then the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) ordered the Jews to get up. Then he stood, spread out his right hand and kept his left hand closed, and then he (peace and blessings be upon him) said: "In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. This is a writing from the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful, concerning the names of the people of Paradise, and the names of their fathers, their mothers and their clans. Your Lord has finished, your Lord has finished, your Lord has finished." Then he spread out his left hand, and pointing to it he said: "In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. This is a writing from the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful, in which are the names of the people of Hell, and the names of their fathers, their mothers and their clans. Your Lord has finished, your Lord has finished, your Lord has finished. Have I left you without excuse? Have I warned you? O Allah, I have conveyed."
Al-Tabarani recorded it; its chain contains Abdullah bin Yazid bin Adam, about whom Ahmad said: His narrated hadiths are mawdu' (fabricated).
Hadith Reference مجمع الزوائد ومنبع الفوائد / كتاب القدر / 11849
Hadith Grading محدثین: موضوع
Hadith Takhrij «اخرجه الطبراني فى المعجم الكبير (7660)»
وَعَنْ ثَوْبَانَ ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ - صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ - قَالَ : " إِذَا ذُكِرَ أَصْحَابِي ، فَأَمْسِكُوا ، وَإِذَا ذُكِرَ النُّجُومُ ، فَأَمْسِكُوا ، وَإِذَا ذُكِرَ الْقَدَرُ ، فَأَمْسِكُوا " .
رَوَاهُ الطَّبَرَانِيُّ ، وَفِيهِ يَزِيدُ بْنُ رَبِيعَةَ وَهُوَ ضَعِيفٌ .
Sayyiduna Thawban (may Allah be pleased with him) narrates this saying of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him): "When my Companions are mentioned, hold back; when the stars are mentioned, hold back; and when destiny (qadar) is mentioned, hold back."
Al-Tabarani recorded it; its chain contains a narrator, Yazid bin Rabi'ah, who is da'if (weak).
Hadith Reference مجمع الزوائد ومنبع الفوائد / كتاب القدر / 11850
Hadith Grading محدثین: إسنادہ ضعیف
Hadith Takhrij «اخرجه الطبراني فى المعجم الكبير (1427) ، أخرجه المعجم الكبير للطبراني برقم: 1427، وأخرجه المطالب العالية بزوائد المسانيد الثمانية برقم: 2956، 2957، وأخرجه إتحاف الخيرة المهرة بزوائد المسانيد العشرة برقم: 220»
وَعَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ مَسْعُودٍ قَالَ : قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ - صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ : " إِذَا ذُكِرَ أَصْحَابِي فَأَمْسِكُوا ، وَإِذَا ذُكِرَ النُّجُومُ فَأَمْسِكُوا ، وَإِذَا ذُكِرَ الْقَدَرُ فَأَمْسِكُوا " .
رَوَاهُ الطَّبَرَانِيُّ ، وَفِيهِ مُسْهِرُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الْمَلِكِ ، وَثَّقَهُ ابْنُ حِبَّانَ وَغَيْرُهُ وَفِيهِ خِلَافٌ ، وَبَقِيَّةُ رِجَالِهِ رِجَالُ الصَّحِيحِ .
Sayyiduna Abdullah bin Mas'ud (may Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: "When my Companions are mentioned, hold back; when the stars are mentioned, hold back; when destiny (qadar) is mentioned, hold back."
Al-Tabarani recorded it; its chain contains a narrator, Mus-hir bin Abd al-Malik, whom Ibn Hibban and others declared thiqah (trustworthy), though there is disagreement about him; the rest of its narrators are the narrators of the Sahih.
Hadith Reference مجمع الزوائد ومنبع الفوائد / كتاب القدر / 11851
Hadith Grading محدثین: إسنادہ حسن
Hadith Takhrij «اخرجه الطبراني فى المعجم الكبير (10448) ، أخرجه المعجم الكبير للطبراني برقم: 1427، وأخرجه المطالب العالية بزوائد المسانيد الثمانية برقم: 2956، 2957، وأخرجه إتحاف الخيرة المهرة بزوائد المسانيد العشرة برقم: 220»
وَعَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ قَالَ : قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ - صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ : " اتَّقُوا الْقَدَرَ فَإِنَّهُ شُعْبَةٌ مِنَ النَّصْرَانِيَّةِ " .
رَوَاهُ الطَّبَرَانِيُّ ، وَفِيهِ نِزَارُ بْنُ حِبَّانَ وَهُوَ ضَعِيفٌ .
Sayyiduna Abdullah bin Abbas (may Allah be pleased with them both) narrates that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: "Beware of (denying) destiny (qadar)! For it is a branch of Christianity."
Al-Tabarani recorded it; its chain contains a narrator, Nizar bin Hibban, who is da'if (weak).
Hadith Reference مجمع الزوائد ومنبع الفوائد / كتاب القدر / 11852
Hadith Grading محدثین: إسنادہ ضعیف
Hadith Takhrij «اخرجه الطبراني فى المعجم الكبير (11680) ، أخرجه المعجم الكبير للطبراني برقم: 11680»
وَعَنْ أَنَسٍ قَالَ : خَرَجَ النَّبِيُّ - صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ - مِنْ بَابِ الْبَيْتِ وَهُوَ يُرِيدُ الْحُجْرَةَ ، فَسَمِعَ قَوْمًا يَتَنَازَعُونَ بَيْنَهُمْ فِي الْقَدَرِ وَهُمْ يَقُولُونَ : أَلَمْ يَقُلِ اللَّهُ إِنَّهُ كَذَا وَكَذَا ؟ أَلَمْ يَقُلِ اللَّهُ آيَةَ كَذَا وَكَذَا ؟ قَالَ : فَفَتَحَ النَّبِيُّ - صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ - بَابَ الْحُجْرَةِ فَكَأَنَّمَا فُقِئَ فِي وَجْهِهِ حَبُّ الرُّمَّانِ ، فَقَالَ : " أَبِهَذَا أُمِرْتُمْ ؟ أَوَ بِهَذَا عَنِيتُمْ ؟ إِنَّمَا هَلَكَ مَنْ كَانَ قَبْلَكُمْ بِأَشْبَاهِ هَذَا ، ضَرَبُوا كِتَابَ اللَّهِ بَعْضَهُ بِبَعْضٍ ، أَمَرَكُمُ اللَّهُ بِأَمْرٍ فَاتَّبِعُوهُ ، وَنَهَاكُمْ فَانْتَهُوا " ، قَالَ : فَلَمْ يَسْمَعِ النَّاسُ بَعْدَ ذَلِكَ أَحَدًا يَتَكَلَّمُ ، حَتَّى مَعْبَدٍ الْجُهَنِيِّ فَأَخَذَهُ الْحَجَّاجُ فَقَتَلَهُ .
رَوَاهُ أَبُو يَعْلَى ، وَفِيهِ يُوسُفُ بْنُ عَطِيَّةَ وَهُوَ مَتْرُوكٌ .
Sayyiduna Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) narrates: The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) came out of the door of the house, intending to go to the chamber. He heard the voices of some people who were arguing about destiny (qadar) and saying: "Did Allah Almighty not say such-and-such? Did Allah Almighty not say such-and-such?" The narrator says: Then the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) opened the door, and it seemed (from the intensity of his anger) as though pomegranate seeds had been burst upon his face. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: "Is this what you have been commanded? Is this what is wanted of you? Those before you were destroyed only because of things like this: they set one part of the Book of Allah Almighty against another. Whatever Allah Almighty commands you, follow it, and whatever He has forbidden you, refrain from it!" The narrator says: After that, no one was ever heard speaking about destiny, until the time of Ma'bad al-Juhani came (and he began this), and al-Hajjaj seized him and had him killed.
Abu Ya'la recorded it; its chain contains a narrator, Yusuf bin Atiyyah, who is matruk (abandoned).
Hadith Reference مجمع الزوائد ومنبع الفوائد / كتاب القدر / 11853
Hadith Grading محدثین: ضعیف جداً
Hadith Takhrij «اخرجه ابو يعلى فى المسند (1321) ، أخرجه سنن ابن ماجه برقم: 85، وأخرجه مسند أحمد برقم: 6806، وأخرجه المعجم الأوسط للطبراني برقم: 1330، وأخرجه المطالب العالية بزوائد المسانيد الثمانية برقم: 2947، وأخرجه إتحاف الخيرة المهرة بزوائد المسانيد العشرة برقم: 212»
وَعَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ قَالَ : قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ - صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ : " لَا يَزَالُ أَمْرُ هَذِهِ الْأُمَّةِ مُوَاتِيًا أَوْ مُقَارِبًا - أَوْ كَلِمَةً تُشْبِهُهَا - مَا لَمْ يَتَكَلَّمُوا فِي الْوِلْدَانِ وَالْقَدَرِ " .
رَوَاهُ الْبَزَّارُ ، وَالطَّبَرَانِيُّ فِي الْكَبِيرِ ، وَالْأَوْسَطِ ، وَرِجَالُ الْبَزَّارِ رِجَالُ الصَّحِيحِ .
Sayyiduna Abdullah bin Abbas (may Allah be pleased with them both) narrates that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: "The affair of this Ummah will remain sound as long as they do not speak about the children and destiny (qadar)." (The narrator was unsure about one word of the narration.)
Al-Bazzar recorded it, and al-Tabarani in al-Mu'jam al-Kabir and al-Mu'jam al-Awsat; the narrators of al-Bazzar are the narrators of the Sahih.
Hadith Reference مجمع الزوائد ومنبع الفوائد / كتاب القدر / 11854
Hadith Grading محدثین: إسنادہ صحیح
Hadith Takhrij «اخرجه البزار فى المسند (2180) اخرجه الطبراني فى المعجم الكبير (12764) ، أخرجه المستدرك على الصحيحين برقم: 100، وأخرجه المعجم الكبير للطبراني برقم: 12764، وأخرجه صحيح ابن حبان برقم: 6724، وأخرجه البحر الزخار المعروف بمسند البزار 10 - 18 برقم: 4739»
وَعَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ - صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ - قَالَ : " آخِرُ الْكَلَامِ فِي الْقَدَرِ شِرَارُ هَذِهِ الْأُمَّةِ " .
رَوَاهُ الْبَزَّارُ ، وَالطَّبَرَانِيُّ فِي الْأَوْسَطِ ، وَزَادَ " لَشِرَارُ أُمَّتِي فِي آخِرِ الزَّمَانِ " ، وَرِجَالُ الْبَزَّارِ [ فِي أَحَدِ الْإِسْنَادَيْنِ ] رِجَالُ الصَّحِيحِ [ غَيْرَ عُمَرَ بْنِ أَبِي خَلِيفَةَ وَهُوَ ثِقَةٌ ] .
Sayyiduna Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) narrates this saying of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him): "Talking about destiny (qadar) has been deferred for the worst people of this Ummah."
Al-Bazzar recorded it, and al-Tabarani in al-Mu'jam al-Awsat, and he added the words: "for the worst people of my Ummah at the end of time." In one of the two chains, the narrators of al-Bazzar are the narrators of the Sahih, except for Umar bin Abi Khalifah, and he is thiqah (trustworthy).
Hadith Reference مجمع الزوائد ومنبع الفوائد / كتاب القدر / 11855
Hadith Grading محدثین: إسنادہ صحیح
Hadith Takhrij «اخرجه البزار فى المسند (2179 و 2178) ، أخرجه المستدرك على الصحيحين برقم: 3817، وأخرجه المعجم الأوسط للطبراني برقم: 5905»