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Bayhaqi 8979 — Those who said one begins the talbiyah after the prayer

وَأَخْبَرَنَا أَبُو عَبْدِ اللهِ مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللهِ الْحَافِظُ، أنبأ أَحْمَدُ بْنُ جَعْفَرٍ الْقَطِيعِيُّ، ثنا عَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ حَنْبَلٍ، حَدَّثَنِي أَبِي، حَدَّثَنِي يَعْقُوبُ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ بْنِ سَعْدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبِي، عَنِ ابْنِ إِسْحَاقَ، حَدَّثَنِي خُصَيْفُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ الْجَزَرِيُّ، عَنْ سَعِيدِ بْنِ جُبَيْرٍ، قَالَ: قُلْتُ لِعَبْدِ اللهِ بْنِ عَبَّاسٍ: يَا أَبَا الْعَبَّاسِ عَجِبْتُ لِاخْتِلَافِ أَصْحَابِ رَسُولِ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فِي إِهْلَالِ رَسُولِ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ حِينَ أَوْجَبَ، فَقَالَ: " إِنِّي لَأَعْلَمُ النَّاسِ بِذَلِكَ، إِنَّهَا إِنَّمَا كَانَتْ مِنْ رَسُولِ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ حَجَّةٌ وَاحِدَةٌ فَمِنْ هُنَاكَ اخْتَلَفُوا، خَرَجَ رَسُولُ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ حَاجًّا، فَلَمَّا صَلَّى فِي مَسْجِدِهِ بِذِي الْحُلَيْفَةِ رَكْعَتَيْهِ أَوْجَبَهُ فِي مَجْلِسِهِ، أَهَلَّ بِالْحَجِّ حِينَ فَرَغَ مِنْ رَكْعَتَيْهِ فَسَمِعَ ذَلِكَ مِنْهُ أَقْوَامٌ فَحَفِظَتْهُ عَنْهُ، ثُمَّ رَكِبَ فَلَمَّا اسْتَقَلَّتْ بِهِ نَاقَتُهُ أَهَلَّ وَأَدْرَكَ ذَلِكَ مِنْهُ أَقْوَامٌ، وَذَلِكَ أَنَّ النَّاسَ كَانُوا يَأْتُونَ أَرْسَالًا فَسَمِعُوهُ حِينَ اسْتَقَلَّتْ بِهِ نَاقَتُهُ يُهِلُّ، فَقَالُوا: إِنَّمَا أَهَلَّ رَسُولُ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ حِينَ اسْتَقَلَّتْ بِهِ نَاقَتُهُ، ثُمَّ مَضَى رَسُولُ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَلَمَّا عَلَا عَلَى شَرَفِ الْبَيْدَاءِ أَهَلَّ وَأَدْرَكَ ذَلِكَ مِنْهُ أَقْوَامٌ فَقَالُوا: إِنَّمَا أَهَلَّ رَسُولُ اللهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ حِينَ عَلَا عَلَى شَرَفِ الْبَيْدَاءِ وَايْمُ اللهِ لَقَدْ أَوْجَبَ فِي مُصَلَّاهُ وَأَهَلَّ حِينَ اسْتَقَلَّتْ بِهِ نَاقَتُهُ وَأَهَلَّ حِينَ عَلَا عَلَى شَرَفِ الْبَيْدَاءِ " قَالَ سَعِيدُ بْنُ جُبَيْرٍ: فَمَنْ أَخَذَ بِقَوْلِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ أَهَلَّ فِي مُصَلَّاهُ إِذَا فَرَغَ مِنْ رَكْعَتَيْهِ خُصَيْفٌ الْجَزَرِيُّ غَيْرُ قَوِيٍّ وَقَدْ رَوَاهُ الْوَاقِدِيُّ بِإِسْنَادٍ لَهُ عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ إِلَّا أَنَّهُ لَا تَنْفَعُ مُتَابَعَةُ الْوَاقِدِيِّ، وَالْأَحَادِيثُ الَّتِي وَرَدَتْ فِي ذَلِكَ عَنِ ابْنِ عُمَرَ وَغَيْرِهِ أَسَانِيدُهَا قَوِيَّةٌ ثَابِتَةٌ، وَاللهُ أَعْلَمُ.
Sa'id bin Jubayr (may Allah have mercy on him) said: I said to Abdullah bin Abbas (may Allah be pleased with them both): "O Abu al-Abbas, I am amazed at the disagreement of the Companions (may Allah be pleased with them) about the talbiyah of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him)." He said: "I am the most knowledgeable of people about that. The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) performed only one Hajj, and that is where they came to differ. The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) set out for Hajj, and when he prayed two rak'ahs in the mosque of Dhu al-Hulayfah, he began the talbiyah for Hajj right there; when he finished the two rak'ahs, some people memorised this. Then he mounted, and when his she-camel rose with him, he said the talbiyah, and some people found him saying the talbiyah at that moment. That was because people were coming in successive groups, so they heard him saying the talbiyah when his she-camel rose with him, and they said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said the talbiyah when his she-camel rose with him. Then he (peace and blessings be upon him) went on, and when he climbed onto al-Bayda', he said the talbiyah, and some people found him at that moment too, so they thought that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) began the talbiyah when he climbed the height of al-Bayda'. By Allah, he had begun the talbiyah from his place of prayer, and (said it again) when his she-camel rose with him, and when he (peace and blessings be upon him) climbed the height of al-Bayda'." Sa'id bin Jubayr (may Allah have mercy on him) said: Whoever takes the view of Ibn Abbas (may Allah be pleased with them both) says the talbiyah at the moment he finishes his prayer.
Khusayf al-Jazari is not strong. Al-Waqidi also narrated it with a chain of his own from Ibn Abbas, but al-Waqidi's corroboration is of no benefit, and the hadiths reported on this from Ibn Umar and others have strong, established chains. And Allah knows best.
Hadith Reference السنن الكبرى للبيهقي / كتاب الحج / 8979
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