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Hadith 882

حَدَّثَنَا الْحَسَنُ بْنُ عَلِيٍّ الْخَلَّالُ ، حَدَّثَنَا يَزِيدُ بْنُ هَارُونَ ، أَنْبَأَنَا شَرِيكٌ ، عَنْ عَاصِمِ بْنِ كُلَيْبٍ ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ ، عَنْ وَائِلِ بْنِ حُجْرٍ ، قَالَ : " رَأَيْتُ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ " إِذَا سَجَدَ وَضَعَ رُكْبَتَيْهِ قَبْلَ يَدَيْهِ ، وَإِذَا قَامَ مِنَ السُّجُودِ رَفَعَ يَدَيْهِ قَبْلَ رُكْبَتَيْهِ " .
´It was narrated that Wa’il bin Hujr said:` “I saw the Prophet (ﷺ) when he prostrated and put his knees on the ground before his hands, and when he stood up after prostrating, he took his hands off the ground before his knees.”
Hadith Reference سنن ابن ماجه / كتاب إقامة الصلاة والسنة / 882
Hadith Grading الألبانی: ضعيف  |  زبیر علی زئی: ضعيف, إسناده ضعيف, سنن أبي داود (838) ترمذي (268) نسائي (1090), انوار الصحيفه، صفحه نمبر 409
Hadith Takhrij « سنن ابی داود/الصلاة 141 ( 838 ) ، سنن الترمذی/الصلاة 85 ( 268 ) ، سنن النسائی/التطبیق 38 ( 1090 ) ، ( تحفة الأشراف : 11780 ) ، وقد أخرجہ : مسند احمد ( 2/381 ) ، سنن الدارمی/الصلاة 74 ( 1359 ) ( ضعیف ) » ( سند میں شریک القاضی ضعیف ہیں ، نیز : ملاحظہ ہو : الإرواء : 357 ، وضعیف أبی داود : 151 )
Brief Explanation
1؎: Imam Darqutni states that this hadith has not been narrated from Asim by anyone other than Sharik, and Sharik is not strong in cases of solitary narration. Allamah Albani states that a group of trustworthy narrators (thiqaat) have narrated the text of this hadith from Asim bin Kulayb, and they have described the method of the Prophet’s (sallallahu alayhi wa sallam) prayer in more detail than Sharik. Despite this, these trustworthy narrators have not mentioned the manner of going into and rising from prostration (sajdah). In summary, Sharik has erred in this hadith, and this hadith is extremely weak and absolutely not suitable as evidence. The authentic hadith in Abu Dawud, narrated from Abu Hurairah (radi Allahu anhu), states that one should place both hands before both knees. Allamah Ibn al-Qayyim has said about this hadith of Abu Hurairah (radi Allahu anhu) «مقلوب» that the original hadith is as follows: «وليضع ركبتيه قبل يديه» meaning: the worshipper should place his knees on the ground before his hands. However, the hadith scholars Abdul Rahman Mubarakpuri, Allamah Ahmad Shakir, and Shaykh Nasir al-Din al-Albani have refuted this opinion of Ibn al-Qayyim, and Ibn Khuzaymah has said that it is not correct to declare the narration of placing the hands before the knees as abrogated, because the narration of Sa’d bin Abi Waqqas (radi Allahu anhu): «كنا نضع اليدين قبل الركبتين فأمرنا بالركبتين قبل اليدين» meaning: “At first, we used to place our hands before our knees, then we were commanded to place our knees before our hands,” is extremely weak and absolutely not suitable as evidence. For further clarification of the issue, we present here the statements of the scholars: The position of the Ahl al-Hadith is that when going into prostration, both hands should be placed on the ground before the knees. This is correct because it is established from both the action and command of the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa sallam). As for the action, it is in the hadith of Ibn Umar (radi Allahu anhu) that when the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa sallam) would prostrate, he would place his hands on the ground before his knees. This hadith has been narrated by a group, among whom is al-Hakim. Al-Hakim says that this hadith is authentic according to the conditions of Muslim, and al-Dhahabi has agreed with him, and it is as both of them have said. Ibn Khuzaymah (627) has also authenticated it (see: Irwa’ al-Ghalil 2/77-78). As for the Prophetic command, it is established from the marfu’ hadith of Abu Hurairah (radi Allahu anhu): «إذا سجد أحدكم فلا يبرك كما يبرك البعير و ليضع يديه قبل ركبتيه» meaning: “When one of you prostrates, he should not go down as a camel does, but should place his hands on the ground before his knees.” This hadith has been narrated by Abu Dawud, al-Nasa’i, and a group, and its chain is strong according to Nawawi and Zarqani, and this is also the statement of Hafiz Ibn Hajar. The only opposing narration to these two hadiths is the hadith of Wa’il bin Hujr, and this is weak due to the narrator Sharik bin Abdullah al-Qadi, because he is of weak memory (sayyi’ al-hifz). So, when he is not reliable in solitary narration, then what will be the case when he opposes trustworthy narrators? For this reason, Hafiz Ibn Hajar states in Bulugh al-Maram that the hadith of Abu Hurairah is stronger than the hadith of Wa’il, and this has been mentioned by Abdul Haqq al-Ishbili. Al-Tahawi, in Sharh Ma’ani al-Athar (1/150), states that the camel’s knees are in its forelegs, as is the case with other quadrupeds, but this is not the case with humans. Thus, the Prophetic instruction was that the worshipper should not sit on his knees, which are in his feet, as the camel sits on its knees (which are in its forelegs), but rather, he should begin sitting by first placing both hands on the ground, in which there are no knees, and then place his knees, so in this action he will be contrary to the way a camel sits. Albani says that the command mentioned in this Sunnah is apparently obligatory. Ibn Hazm has declared it obligatory in al-Muhalla (4/128), and the necessary consequence of declaring it obligatory is that its opposite is impermissible. This refutes the consensus that Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah has mentioned in al-Fatawa, that both ways are permissible (Fatawa Ibn Taymiyyah 1/88). Albani says that this neglected Sunnah should be highlighted so that people are diligent in acting upon it. This is also found in the hadith of Abu Humayd al-Sa’idi (radi Allahu anhu) with ten Companions of the Messenger, that the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu alayhi wa sallam) would go down towards the ground and his hands would be away from his sides, then he would prostrate, and all of them said to Abu Humayd: “You have spoken the truth, the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa sallam) used to pray like this.” This narration has been reported by Ibn Khuzaymah (Sahih Ibn Khuzaymah 1/317-318) and others with an authentic chain. When you have come to know this, and you have reflected with me on the meaning of the word «هوى», which means to go down to the ground with both hands separated from the sides, then it will become clear to you, without any ambiguity, that this is only possible as a matter of habit when a person places both hands on the ground, not the knees. In this, there is another evidence for the weakness of the hadith of Wa’il (radi Allahu anhu). This is also the view of Malik, al-Awza’i, Ibn Hazm, and in one narration, Ahmad (see: al-Ikhtiyarat al-Fiqhiyyah li’l-Imam al-Albani, 90-91). Albani, under the heading “Placing both hands on the ground before the knees for prostration” in “Sifat Salat al-Nabi (sallallahu alayhi wa sallam),” says: The Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa sallam), when going into prostration, would place his hands on the ground before his knees, and he commanded this, saying: “When one of you prostrates, he should not go down as a camel does, but should place his hands on the ground before his knees.” Regarding the first hadith, he says that it has been narrated by Ibn Khuzaymah, Darqutni, and al-Hakim, and al-Hakim has declared it authentic and al-Dhahabi has agreed with him, and the hadith opposing it is not authentic. This is the view of Malik, and it is also narrated from Ahmad as in al-Tahqiq by Ibn al-Jawzi, and Marwazi has narrated with an authentic chain from Imam al-Awza’i that he said: “I found people placing their hands on the ground before their knees.” Regarding the second hadith, which commands placing both hands on the ground first, he writes: Abu Dawud, Tamam fi’l-Fawa’id, Sunan al-Nasa’i al-Sughra and al-Kubra with a sound chain, and Abdul Haqq has authenticated it in Ahkam al-Kubra and said in Kitab al-Tahajjud that its chain is better than that of the opposing hadith of Wa’il, rather, the hadith of Wa’il, in addition to opposing this authentic hadith and the previous one, is also weak in its chain, and the other hadiths with this meaning are also weak, as I have mentioned in Silsilat al-Ahadith al-Da’ifah (929) and Irwa’ al-Ghalil (357). After this, he says: Know that the way to oppose the camel is that when going into prostration, both hands should be placed on the ground before the knees, because the first thing a camel places on the ground when sitting are its knees, which are in its forelegs (i.e., its two front legs), as is mentioned in Lisan al-Arab and elsewhere. Imam al-Tahawi has mentioned this in “Mushkil al-Athar” and “Sharh Ma’ani al-Athar,” and likewise is the statement of Imam Qasim Sarqasti rahimahullah, who has narrated with an authentic chain in “Gharib al-Hadith” from Abu Hurairah (radi Allahu anhu) that no one should sit in prayer like a stubborn camel (Imam Sarqasti says this is in the case of going into prostration), meaning: he should not throw himself onto the ground as a stubborn camel sits without calmness, but rather, he should go down with calmness and place both hands on the ground, then after that his knees. In this regard, there is a marfu’ hadith in which this detail is present, then Qasim Sarqasti mentioned the above hadith. It is strange that Ibn al-Qayyim says that this is far from reason and unknown among the people of language. In the references we have indicated, and in many other references, there are refutations of this, to which one should refer. We have explained this issue in detail in our refutation of Shaykh Hamud Tuwayjiri (see: Sifat al-Salat, 140-141).
Explanation & Benefits
Maulana Ataullah Sajid
Benefits and Issues:


The aforementioned narration is weak in its chain of transmission.
Therefore, when going into prostration (sujud), one should place the hands on the ground before the knees.
As narrated from Abu Hurairah radi Allahu anhu, the Noble Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said:
“When one of you prostrates, he should not sit as a camel sits.
He should place his hands before his knees.” (Sunan Abi Dawud, Kitab al-Salat, Chapter: How to place the knees before the hands, Hadith: 840)
Also, in Sahih al-Bukhari, it is mentioned that Ibn Umar radi Allahu anhuma used to place his hands before his knees. (Sahih al-Bukhari, al-Adhan, Chapter: 128)
The chain of narration for the hadith of Abu Hurairah radi Allahu anhu is sound,
as written by Imam Nawawi rahimahullah and Zarqani.
And Hafiz Ibn Hajar rahimahullah has written that the hadith of Abu Hurairah radi Allahu anhu is stronger than the hadith of Wa’il.
See: (Tamam al-Minnah: 194, 193)
The preference of Hafiz Ibn Hajar rahimahullah is also that, while avoiding resemblance to a camel, one should place the hands on the ground when going into prostration.
The majority of hadith scholars and the Hanbalis hold this view.
However, the Hanafis and Shafi‘is act upon the (weak) narration of Wa’il radi Allahu anhu,
and they place the knees first.
For details, see: (Tuhfat al-Ahwadhi, Tamam al-Minnah)
Source: Commentary on Sunan Ibn Mājah by Mawlānā ‘Atā’ullāh Sājid, Page: 882
Hafiz Muhammad Ameen
1155. Commentary:

➊ Here, by "Sharik" is meant Qadi Sharik. He is unique in narrating this hadith in this manner. Reliable narrators (for example: Hammam) narrate this hadith as mursal, that is, directly from the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam without mentioning a Companion. Qadi Sharik is not so strong in terms of memory that his solitary narration can be accepted. The intention of the Imam is that this narration is mursal, not connected (mutassil), and not reliable. Other hadith scholars, such as Imam Tirmidhi, Darqutni, and Bayhaqi rahimahumullah, are also in agreement with the Imam in this judgment.

➋ In the other chains of this hadith, the mention of the Companion Wa’il radi Allahu anhu is not found. The narrators who mention him are criticized, therefore this narration is disputed. Hadith number 1154 is reliable. Further discussion on this issue has already taken place previously under the benefits of hadith number 1092. Please refer there.
Source: Sunan Nasa'i: Translation and Benefits by Shaykh Hafiz Muhammad Amin Hafizullah, Page: 1155
Shaykh Dr. Abdur Rahman Freywai
English Commentary:
1:
Those who hold the view that both knees should be placed before both hands have used this very hadith as evidence, but this narration is weak.
Sharik is alone in narrating from Asim bin Kulayb, while Sharik himself is weak.
Although this narration has also been transmitted by Hammam bin Yahya through two routes—one via Muhammad bin Hajjada and the other via Shaqiq—however, the chain through Muhammad bin Hajjada is disconnected because ‘Abd al-Jabbar did not hear from his father, and the chain through Shaqiq is also weak because he himself is unknown (majhul).
Explanation

2:
Hammam did not narrate it from Asim, but rather from Shaqiq, and Shaqiq narrated it from Asim in a mursal (disconnected) manner. Thus, there are two defects in the chain through Shaqiq:
First, Shaqiq himself is unknown (majhul), and the second defect is that it is mursal, and there is no mention of Wa’il bin Hujr radi Allahu anhu in it.

Note:
(When Sharik is alone in narrating, his narration is not accepted.)
Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhi – Majlis ‘Ilmi Dar al-Da‘wah, New Delhi Edition, Page: 268
Hafiz Abu Saeed Salafi
Takhrij al-Hadith:
[سنن ابي داؤد: 838، سنن النسائي : 1090، سنن الترمذي: 268، و صححهٔ، سنن ابن ماجه : 882، و صححه ابن خزيمة : 629، و ابن حبان : 1909]
Commentary:
Its chain of narration is "weak" (da'if), because within it is the narrator Sharik ibn Abdullah al-Qadi, who is a "mudallis" (one who practices tadlis). He has not explicitly stated hearing (sama‘) from his shaykh.
◈ Imam al-Bayhaqi rahimahullah has declared this hadith to be "weak". [السنن الكبرى : 100/2]
Source: Monthly Magazine al-Sunnah Jhelum, Issues 61-66, Page: 70
Abu Talhah Babar
Benefits and Issues:
There are differing opinions among the scholars regarding the manner of going into prostration, that is: whether the hands should be placed on the ground first or the knees. Accordingly, according to one narration from Abu Hanifah, Shafi’i, and Ahmad (rahimahumullah), the worshipper should place his knees on the ground before his hands. In fact, Tirmidhi rahimahullah has attributed this practice to most of the scholars. Thus, Imam Tirmidhi says in his Sunan Tirmidhi (2/57):

“Most of the scholars act upon this, and their view is that one should place his knees on the ground before his hands, and when rising, he should lift his hands before his knees. Those who hold this position have used the narration of Wa’il ibn Hujr radi Allahu anhu as evidence. He says: ‘I saw the Messenger of Allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, when he performed prostration, he would place his knees before his hands, and when he stood up, he would lift his hands before his knees.’ This narration has been reported by Abu Dawud, Tirmidhi, Nasa’i, and Ibn Majah.

And Daraqutni (1/345) says regarding this:

‘This hadith has only been narrated from Sharik by Yazid ibn Harun, and no one else narrates it from Asim ibn Kulayb except Sharik, while Sharik himself is not a strong narrator.’

Bayhaqi rahimahullah says in Sunan (2/101):

‘The chain of this hadith is weak.’

Albani rahimahullah has declared it weak in Mishkat (898) and Irwa’ al-Ghalil (2/75).

However, other scholars, among whom is Ibn al-Qayyim rahimahullah, have declared this hadith authentic in his book “Zad al-Ma’ad.”

Similarly, among the scholars who have adopted the position of placing the knees before the hands are Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah, his distinguished student Ibn al-Qayyim, and among contemporary scholars, Shaykh Abdul Aziz ibn Baz and Shaykh Muhammad ibn Salih al-Uthaymin, rahimahumullah jami’an.

On the other hand, Malik, Awza’i, and the hadith scholars are of the opinion that placing the hands on the ground before the knees is the prescribed practice. For this, they have used the hadith of Abu Hurayrah radi Allahu anhu as evidence. He says that the Messenger of Allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said: (When one of you performs prostration, he should not go down as a camel does, but rather he should place his hands on the ground before his knees.)

This hadith has been narrated by Ahmad (2/381), Abu Dawud, Tirmidhi, and Nasa’i.

Nawawi rahimahullah says in “al-Majmu’” (3/421):

‘This hadith has been narrated by Abu Dawud and Nasa’i with a good chain.’

Regarding this hadith, Albani rahimahullah says:

‘This chain is authentic; all its narrators are trustworthy and are from the narrators of Sahih Muslim except for Muhammad ibn Abdullah ibn Hasan, who is famous by the title “Nafs al-Zakiyyah,” but he too is trustworthy.’

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah rahimahullah has written regarding this issue in his Fatawa (22/449):

‘In both cases, the prayer is valid; there is consensus among the scholars on this. So whether the worshipper places his hands before his knees or his knees before his hands, in both cases, according to all the scholars, the prayer is valid by consensus. The difference is only regarding which is superior.’ End quote.

Therefore, seekers of knowledge should act upon the method with which they feel satisfied after their scholarly research, and the common person should follow the opinion of the one whom he trusts.

And Allah knows best.
Source: Shaykh Muhammad Salih al-Munajjid
Source: Islam Q&A, Page: 2108
Hafiz Zubair Ali Zai
While going into prostration (sajdah), both hands should be placed on the ground first, and then both knees should be placed afterwards. See [سنن ابي داود 840 و سنده صحيح على شرط مسلم]
and Mukhtasar Sahih Namaz-e-Nabawi [17، فقره: 21]

In one narration, it is mentioned that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam used to place his knees on the ground before his hands. [سنن ابي داود: 738، همارانسخه: 838]

In its chain of narration, there is a narrator, Sharik bin Abdullah al-Qadi, who was a mudallis.

See: [نصب الرايه 234/3 اور المحلي 263/8، 333/10]

This narration is from «عن», therefore it is weak and rejected. It is incorrect to declare a weak narration as hasan or sahih.

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Source: Fatawa Ilmiyyah (Tawdih al-Ahkam), Page: 77