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سنن ابن ماجه

Ibn Majah

 (أبواب كتاب السنة)

Chapters: The Book of the Sunnah

 بَابُ : فِيمَا أَنْكَرَتِ الْجَهْمِيَّةُ

Chapter: Concerning what the Jahmiyyah denied (i.e., seeing Allah in the Hereafter, etc.)

Hadith 193

اُردوEn
حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى ، حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الصَّبَّاحِ ، حَدَّثَنَا الْوَلِيدُ بْنُ أَبِي ثَوْرٍ الْهَمْدَانِيُّ ، عَنْ سِمَاكٍ ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عَمِيرَةَ ، عَنِ الْأَحْنَفِ بْنِ قَيْسٍ ، عَنْ الْعَبَّاسِ بْنِ عَبْدِ الْمُطَّلِبِ ، قَالَ : كُنْتُ بِالْبَطْحَاءِ فِي عِصَابَةٍ وَفِيهِمْ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَمَرَّتْ بِهِ سَحَابَةٌ فَنَظَرَ إِلَيْهَا ، فَقَالَ : " مَا تُسَمُّونَ هَذِهِ ؟ " ، قَالُوا : السَّحَابُ ، قَالَ : " وَالْمُزْنُ " ، قَالُوا : وَالْمُزْنُ ، قَالَ : " وَالْعَنَانُ " ، قَال أَبُو بَكْرٍ : قَالُوا : وَالْعَنَانُ ، قَالَ : " كَمْ تَرَوْنَ بَيْنَكُمْ وَبَيْنَ السَّمَاءِ ؟ " ، قَالُوا : لَا نَدْرِي ، قَالَ : " فَإِنَّ بَيْنَكُمْ وَبَيْنَهَا إِمَّا وَاحِدًا ، أَوِ اثْنَيْنِ ، أَوْ ثَلَاثًا وَسَبْعِينَ سَنَةً ، وَالسَّمَاءُ فَوْقَهَا كَذَلِكَ حَتَّى عَدَّ سَبْعَ سَمَاوَاتٍ ، ثُمَّ فَوْقَ السَّمَاءِ السَّابِعَةِ بَحْرٌ بَيْنَ أَعْلَاهُ وَأَسْفَلِهِ كَمَا بَيْنَ سَمَاءٍ إِلَى سَمَاءٍ ، ثُمَّ فَوْقَ ذَلِكَ ثَمَانِيَةُ أَوْعَالٍ بَيْنَ أَظْلَافِهِنَّ وَرُكَبِهِنَّ كَمَا بَيْنَ سَمَاءٍ إِلَى سَمَاءٍ ، ثُمَّ عَلَى ظُهُورِهِنَّ الْعَرْشُ بَيْنَ أَعْلَاهُ وَأَسْفَلِهِ كَمَا بَيْنَ سَمَاءٍ إِلَى سَمَاءٍ ، ثُمَّ اللَّهُ فَوْقَ ذَلِكَ تَبَارَكَ وَتَعَالَى " .
´It was narrated that 'Abbas bin 'Abdul-Mutallib said:` "I was in Batha with a group of people, among them whom was the Messenger of Allah. A cloud passed over him, and he looked at it and said: 'What do you call this?' They said: 'Sahab (a cloud).' He said: 'And Muzn (rain cloud).' They said: 'And Muzn.' He said: 'And 'Anan (clouds).' Abu Bakr said: "They said: 'And 'Anan.'" He said: 'How much (distance) do you think there is between you and the heavens?' They said: 'We do not know.' He said: 'Between you and it is seventy-one, or seventy-two, or seventy-three years, and there is a similar distance between it and the heaven above it (and so on)' until he counted seven heavens. 'Then above the seventh heaven there is a sea, between whose top and bottom is a distance like that between one heaven and another. Then above that there are eight (angels in the form of) mountain goats. The distance between their hooves and their knees is like the distance between one heaven and the next. Then on their backs is the Throne, and the distance between the top and the bottom of the Throne is like the distance between one heaven and another. Then Allah is above that, the Blessed and Exalted."
Hadith Reference سنن ابن ماجه / (أبواب كتاب السنة) / 193
Hadith Grading الألبانی: ضعيف  |  زبیر علی زئی: ضعيف, إسناده ضعيف, سنن أبي داود (4723) ترمذي (3320), انوار الصحيفه، صفحه نمبر 381
Hadith Takhrij «سنن ابی داود/السنة 19 ( 4723 ) ، سنن الترمذی/تفسیر القرآن 67 ( 3320 ) ، ( تحفة الأشراف : 5124 ) ، وقد أخرجہ : مسند احمد ( 1/ 206 ، 207 ) ( ضعیف ) » ( حدیث کی سند میں مذکور راوی ''الولید بن أبی ثور الہمدانی'' ضعیف ہیں ، ''عبد اللہ بن عمیرہ'' لین الحدیث ، نیز ملاحظہ ہو : سلسلة الاحادیث الضعیفة ، للالبانی : 1247 )
Related hadith on this topic
Tirmidhi: 3320 Abu Dawud: 4723
Brief Explanation
1؎: Although there is some criticism regarding the chain of narration of this hadith, the author has established from this hadith the attribute of elevation (‘uluww) for Allah, while this attribute is proven by countless evidences from the Qur’an and Sunnah, and there is consensus of the Imams of Islam upon it. There is absolutely no room for interpretation (ta’wil) in this matter. Here, by elevation (‘uluww) is not meant metaphorical or figurative elevation, but rather sensory and real elevation, and this matter is entirely in accordance with human nature. However, the intellects of the Mu‘tazilah and Jahmiyyah have been corrupted, for they interpret and deny this attribute, and they doubt that which the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu alayhi wa sallam) has explained rationally, sensorially, verbally, and in meaning. The Imams of the religion have authored independent books on this issue, such as “Kitab al-‘Uluww li’l-‘Aliyy al-Ghaffar” by Imam al-Dhahabi.
Explanation & Benefits
Tirmidhi — Hadith 3320
´Al-Ahnaf bin Wais narrated :` from Al-Abbas bin Abdul-Muttalib who claimed that he was sitting in Al-Batha with a group, and the Messenger of Allah was sitting amongst them, when a cloud passed over them. They looked at it, and the Messenger of Allah said: ‘Di you know what its name it?’ They said: ‘Yes. This is As-Sahab (cloud).’ The Messenger of Allah saidl: ‘Al-Muzn (rain cloud)?’ They said: ‘Yes. This is As-Sahab (cloud).’ Then the Messenger of Allah said: ‘Do you know how much distance there is between the heavens and the earth?’ They said: ‘No, by Allah we do not know.’ He said: ‘The distance between every two of them is either seventy-one, or two, or three, years, and the heaven that is above that one is like that.’ Until he enumerated Seven heavens like that. Then he said: ‘Above the seventh heaven is a sea, Between its highest part and its lowest is just as there is between one heaven to another heaven. Then above their backs is the Throne. Between its lowest and highest parts is the same as what is between one heaven to another heaven, and Allah is above that.’”
Shaykh Dr. Abdur Rahman Freywai
Explanation:
1:
These three names are different names for clouds, which have been designated for various types of clouds.

2:
That is, if this hadith had been narrated during the Hajj season and the Jahmiyyah had come to know of it, they would not have raised unnecessary objections.

Note:
(In the chain of narration, Abdullah bin Umairah is a narrator who is lenient in hadith.)
Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhi – Majlis ‘Ilmi Dar al-Da‘wah, New Delhi Edition, Page: 3320
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